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	<title>Comments on: All things Oracle</title>
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		<title>By: dba12</title>
		<link>http://iadviseblog.wordpress.com/2011/09/06/1967/#comment-1738</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Oct 2012 11:34:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Excellent information for all of us....]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Excellent information for all of us&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: ora_dba</title>
		<link>http://iadviseblog.wordpress.com/2011/09/06/1967/#comment-1554</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Oct 2012 10:05:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Very nice work....]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Very nice work&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: oracle dba</title>
		<link>http://iadviseblog.wordpress.com/2011/09/06/1967/#comment-1442</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[oracle dba]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Aug 2012 14:02:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Very nice information for every one who new in oracle. This should be helps lot off...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Very nice information for every one who new in oracle. This should be helps lot off&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: tony miller</title>
		<link>http://iadviseblog.wordpress.com/2011/09/06/1967/#comment-1097</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[tony miller]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Sep 2011 01:58:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Buzz,
  Hmm, lets start with built into every Oracle Database.. It is installed as a default AFTER 11g I believe...  NOT Built in, it can be selected to NOT be installed at install time of the database..

Please tell me again where it is noted that Forms &amp; Reports are outdated products?  If you ask Oracle they are thriving products with multiple future releases planned...

I do NOT cater to the idea that just because java &amp; .nyet have sooo many more hits with companies looking for developers (Please go and do Java &amp; .nyet, my customers do NOT need applications developed in these products).

My customers and the companies that USE APEX use it because it meets their requirements..  They can use RAD development methodologies to develop fast, user-friendly apps that meet their requirements..

Will it be that in 5 years? I Don&#039;t know, and I am pretty sure you don&#039;t have a clue either..  But at this point in time, I would NOT develop Web Based database applications with anything else...

And again, mass acceptance is for what exactly?? Do you develop applications based upon what the next guy uses or what TOOL GIVES YOUR CLIENT WHAT THEY WANT?

&#039;nuff said..

Thank you,

Tony Miller
LuvMuffin Software]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Buzz,<br />
  Hmm, lets start with built into every Oracle Database.. It is installed as a default AFTER 11g I believe&#8230;  NOT Built in, it can be selected to NOT be installed at install time of the database..</p>
<p>Please tell me again where it is noted that Forms &amp; Reports are outdated products?  If you ask Oracle they are thriving products with multiple future releases planned&#8230;</p>
<p>I do NOT cater to the idea that just because java &amp; .nyet have sooo many more hits with companies looking for developers (Please go and do Java &amp; .nyet, my customers do NOT need applications developed in these products).</p>
<p>My customers and the companies that USE APEX use it because it meets their requirements..  They can use RAD development methodologies to develop fast, user-friendly apps that meet their requirements..</p>
<p>Will it be that in 5 years? I Don&#8217;t know, and I am pretty sure you don&#8217;t have a clue either..  But at this point in time, I would NOT develop Web Based database applications with anything else&#8230;</p>
<p>And again, mass acceptance is for what exactly?? Do you develop applications based upon what the next guy uses or what TOOL GIVES YOUR CLIENT WHAT THEY WANT?</p>
<p>&#8217;nuff said..</p>
<p>Thank you,</p>
<p>Tony Miller<br />
LuvMuffin Software</p>
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		<title>By: Buzz Killington</title>
		<link>http://iadviseblog.wordpress.com/2011/09/06/1967/#comment-1096</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Buzz Killington]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Sep 2011 01:42:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Tony,

I have developed in Apex and last time I checked it was built into every Oracle database, so no envy here.  I do however disagree with your assertion that Apex is not a niche product.  If you are comparing it to outdated Oracle products like Forms &amp; Reports, then you&#039;re right.  If you&#039;re comparing it to all other web frameworks/languages/etc, yes it still is.  

If it weren&#039;t a niche product, you&#039;d see listings all over for jobs, but that just isn&#039;t the case.  Go to Monster or CareerBuilder and type in Apex or Application Express. Tell me how many results you get (that aren&#039;t for salesforce.com btw).  Now type in Java or .Net and compare.  

Doesn&#039;t make Apex any worse of a product, but it is FAR from mass acceptance as a development platform.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tony,</p>
<p>I have developed in Apex and last time I checked it was built into every Oracle database, so no envy here.  I do however disagree with your assertion that Apex is not a niche product.  If you are comparing it to outdated Oracle products like Forms &amp; Reports, then you&#8217;re right.  If you&#8217;re comparing it to all other web frameworks/languages/etc, yes it still is.  </p>
<p>If it weren&#8217;t a niche product, you&#8217;d see listings all over for jobs, but that just isn&#8217;t the case.  Go to Monster or CareerBuilder and type in Apex or Application Express. Tell me how many results you get (that aren&#8217;t for salesforce.com btw).  Now type in Java or .Net and compare.  </p>
<p>Doesn&#8217;t make Apex any worse of a product, but it is FAR from mass acceptance as a development platform.</p>
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		<title>By: Tony MIller</title>
		<link>http://iadviseblog.wordpress.com/2011/09/06/1967/#comment-1095</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Tony MIller]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Sep 2011 15:26:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Buzz,
  Sounds like a little APEX envy on your part.. But again that is just my BIAS towards APEX NOT being anymore a niche product that ADF or Forms &amp; Reports...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Buzz,<br />
  Sounds like a little APEX envy on your part.. But again that is just my BIAS towards APEX NOT being anymore a niche product that ADF or Forms &amp; Reports&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Buzz Killington</title>
		<link>http://iadviseblog.wordpress.com/2011/09/06/1967/#comment-1089</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Buzz Killington]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Sep 2011 13:03:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[A little heavy on the Apex &quot;experts&quot; huh?  Oracle has a buttload of products - I&#039;d like to see more pl/sql or general development people instead of just Apex.  

Let&#039;s face it - Apex is still a niche product despite what the product managers and conference-mongers want you to believe.  How do I know?  Tell me the last non-oracle/non-apex specific commercial website written in Apex.  I can&#039;t name one.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A little heavy on the Apex &#8220;experts&#8221; huh?  Oracle has a buttload of products &#8211; I&#8217;d like to see more pl/sql or general development people instead of just Apex.  </p>
<p>Let&#8217;s face it &#8211; Apex is still a niche product despite what the product managers and conference-mongers want you to believe.  How do I know?  Tell me the last non-oracle/non-apex specific commercial website written in Apex.  I can&#8217;t name one.</p>
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		<title>By: Gert Poel</title>
		<link>http://iadviseblog.wordpress.com/2011/09/06/1967/#comment-1086</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Gert Poel]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Sep 2011 05:44:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Well, it&#039;s going to be a mix, exclusive articles for All Things Oracle and links to other resources(like blogs posts of the experts).

http://www.allthingsoracle.com/about/]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, it&#8217;s going to be a mix, exclusive articles for All Things Oracle and links to other resources(like blogs posts of the experts).</p>
<p><a href="http://www.allthingsoracle.com/about/" rel="nofollow">http://www.allthingsoracle.com/about/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Savaş Külah</title>
		<link>http://iadviseblog.wordpress.com/2011/09/06/1967/#comment-1085</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Savaş Külah]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Sep 2011 21:56:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Good work.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good work.</p>
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		<title>By: Tony MIller</title>
		<link>http://iadviseblog.wordpress.com/2011/09/06/1967/#comment-1084</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Tony MIller]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Sep 2011 21:34:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[So you are going to RE-POST what they already post via THEIR blogs??  Or are you going to go and get EXCLUSIVE material from them??]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So you are going to RE-POST what they already post via THEIR blogs??  Or are you going to go and get EXCLUSIVE material from them??</p>
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